M4A3E8 Sherman "Easy Eight" Concrete Add On
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18 17 January 2021, 09:39
Hanno Kleinecke
Very authentic looking concrete-like surface !
Never seen concrete being used for up armouring to that vast extend, they must have been really desperate. My grandad commanded a StugIV, and he spoke about concrete uparmouring on his vehicle, but only to eliminate small catches over the drivers position and on the right side of the gun.
Being a constrution engineer himself, he said that they always had difficulties in making the concrete stick to the vehicle, even with welded-on steel enfocements. I wonder how long this amount of material lasted without falling off, and what it did to the handling characteristics of the tank.......
Very authentic looking concrete-like surface !
Never seen concrete being used for up armouring to that vast extend, they must have been really desperate. My grandad commanded a StugIV, and he spoke about concrete uparmouring on his vehicle, but only to eliminate small catches over the drivers position and on the right side of the gun.
Being a constrution engineer himself, he said that they always had difficulties in making the concrete stick to the vehicle, even with welded-on steel enfocements. I wonder how long this amount of material lasted without falling off, and what it did to the handling characteristics of the tank.......
17 January 2021, 11:18
Scott Dutton
Hanno, very interesting, I have plans for a concrete armoured Stug 3 using the Tamiya kit.
The inspiration for this was a YouTube modeller, night shift. I did a quick Google search and found it was real.
I had the exact same queries as you. I wondered whether it was poured like a slab onto the vehicle or constructed as slabs off the vehicle and then fitted. Think the former, assuming welding some anchor points onto the armour to hold it, like the dumb bells attachment rods you see on the side of the collesium. I don't think it would be to effective, crumbling with hits but guess anything helped. Think sand bags were better option. Believe Patton ordered that no extra armour be allowed due to extra load on mech drive train and him wanting high availability and speed.
Anyway for me it was just something different
Thanks for your feedback and comments, nice to get real world info
Hanno, very interesting, I have plans for a concrete armoured Stug 3 using the Tamiya kit.
The inspiration for this was a YouTube modeller, night shift. I did a quick Google search and found it was real.
I had the exact same queries as you. I wondered whether it was poured like a slab onto the vehicle or constructed as slabs off the vehicle and then fitted. Think the former, assuming welding some anchor points onto the armour to hold it, like the dumb bells attachment rods you see on the side of the collesium. I don't think it would be to effective, crumbling with hits but guess anything helped. Think sand bags were better option. Believe Patton ordered that no extra armour be allowed due to extra load on mech drive train and him wanting high availability and speed.
Anyway for me it was just something different
Thanks for your feedback and comments, nice to get real world info
19 January 2021, 20:57
Hanno Kleinecke
Thank you for your explanation Scott ! Obviously not only Patton was afraid of overloading the vehicles chassis, the Panzertruppen as well forbid the use of fieldmod uparmouring such as concrete or tracklinks, which did not stop the crews from using them anyway.
There are reports of preproduced steel uparmouring kits made by the manufacturers especially for stugs, which were filled with concrete by the troops sometimes. The ultimate use of concrete armour on stugs is probably the appearance of the finnish stug in Bovington, with the complete upper hull being covered.
Anyway, your fieldmod is something unique, looking forward to seeing it finished !
Thank you for your explanation Scott ! Obviously not only Patton was afraid of overloading the vehicles chassis, the Panzertruppen as well forbid the use of fieldmod uparmouring such as concrete or tracklinks, which did not stop the crews from using them anyway.
There are reports of preproduced steel uparmouring kits made by the manufacturers especially for stugs, which were filled with concrete by the troops sometimes. The ultimate use of concrete armour on stugs is probably the appearance of the finnish stug in Bovington, with the complete upper hull being covered.
Anyway, your fieldmod is something unique, looking forward to seeing it finished !
19 January 2021, 21:27
Scott Dutton
Much of it is assumptions on My part, should be finished in about a week, for my local ww2 group build.
Much of it is assumptions on My part, should be finished in about a week, for my local ww2 group build.
19 January 2021, 21:53
Hanno Kleinecke
Very realistic and convincing result, the figures look great too 👍
Very realistic and convincing result, the figures look great too 👍
31 January 2021, 10:24
Simon Nagorsnik
Well don job with the concrete armor!
And a overall good paint job!
Like your figures!
Well don job with the concrete armor!
And a overall good paint job!
Like your figures!
30 January 2022, 07:36